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The title of this post is rather ironic considering our recent successful progression in ICC 10man…

I would love to post you some numbers about BM’s performance against MM and SV in a 10man ICC raids.  I’ve been thinking about it because in my experience, BM is a viable raiding spec and does not “suck” as bad as it’s been reported with information that I believe is based mostly on 25M raiding

Alas, I have finally have decided against posting any numbers in defence of BM.  Today I heard about this blue post:

The only specs we really failed on in LK raiding were Frost mage, Subtlety rogue, BM hunter and Arms warrior.

Oh crap.

Did he just call my spec “fail”???

What does he mean?  What’s the context – is he talking raiding 10mans, 25mans, heroic modes?  GC’s complete words were:

Yet, even though Enhance’s dps was low, there were thousands of dps shaman raiding ICC. By far the majority of raids had at least one. The only specs we really failed on in LK raiding were Frost mage, Subtlety rogue, BM hunter and Arms warrior. If Enhance’s numbers are higher on mobility fights, then those participation numbers should only go up.

Okay GC, so… what you’re saying is that the 5 above mentioned class specs have lower dps compared to the other classes and their specs in raiding. However, since Shaman DPS was still being used by most raids, it isn’t as “failed” as the others?  What if BM hunters had a good representation in raids?  Would that change your opinion?

Does this mean that I’ll get my moose instead?

Trying to prove that BM can produce raid-worthy dps is rather pointless when Blizzard has come out and agreed with the masses.

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Reading around the blogosphere, I’ve seen where people have defended the statement:

yes in the min/max, heroic lich king downing, hardcore community, BM failed. these are the same people who wont pug me as survival. that being said, i was in a 25toc gdkp where the 2nd highest dps of the carriers was a BM hunter, who i only beat just barely, granted this was only one instance, but lets be honest, how many BM hunters do u see?

And I’ve seen what people have responded with:

you have just verified what Blizzard said. You just named 1 example from WotLK where BM was second on DPS…. The only thing it says about that particular run is that the rest DPS was either incompetent, raiding with VERY low gear compared to him or simply they were other failed DPS specs.
And you also answered yourself. The reason you dont see BM raiding is exactly the fact that it is failed raiding spec. So no, not in the min/max, heroic LK, hardcore community but in general. Although it is the king of soloing specs.

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Trying to prove that BM can produce raid-worthy dps is not a fight worth fighting if  people will come along and insult my fellow raiders or the guild that I run with.   I know what dps BM can do and I doubt very much that just because Blizzard failed me, I’m going to drop BM now.

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